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Roberta Ward: Leading Property Mentor & Founder of New Digital Investor Magazine Speaks

February 3rd, 2011

Please see an interview with one of the UK’s most reputable property entrepreneurs and owner of My Property Mentor, Roberta Ward.  In addition to talking about her new digital magazine – Investor Insight – we discuss the short term risks in the market; effective strategies to adopt moving forward; medium term expectations; lease options; joint-venturing and the property ‘guru’ phenomenon amongst other topics…

1) So, what have you been up to over the last year? Last year (and the year before) were real turn around years for us. We took a step back and reviewed all our assets and investments.  We made sure they were running to maximum efficiency, re-invested spare cash in other diverse projects and got very active in social media. We have also been planning a new Digital Investor magazine, which has just launched (Investor Insight).

2) Bar rising interest rates, what do you think are the major impending risks for UK property investors? Tax issues will be a major factor, there are lots of new changes coming in this year which will effect investors at both ends of a deal. And of course the lack of real finance will play a big factor in the market as a whole – whether thats rental or sales.

3) How do you think they could potentially be minimised? Get your financial advisor to inspect your tax issues so you dont loose money by not knowing the new rules, and, so you can move money into other areas. Be sure they are claiming all they can for you before the loop holes are closed by the current cuts. Now is the time to shore up all your investments and diversify into other things so you spread your risks-if you have not already done so.

4) What would be your advice to both newbie and experienced investors looking to strategise effectively moving forward? No one should enter the market unless they have some money behind them, proven income and a good credit history are key to getting finance. The days of back to back mortgages are long gone and unlikely to return for the foreseeable future. If you don’t have the above, then the next best thing is a joint venture with someone who has. These are tried and tested ways of investing in all markets, not fads like lease options for example. Anyone that tells you having a bunch of tenants is a ‘passive’ income is talking jibberish. Tenants are anything but passive and the more the market tightens the more competition there will be. It’s likely that there will be more demand for room rents if rentals rise beyond reach and as job losses bite. We’ve seen a marked rise in new room rent agents in our area, which is something I will be blogging about shortly too.

5) What are your thoughts on the medium term property market in the UK (the next 5 years)? Property investing in this market is not for the faint hearted, and I think you have to be in it full time to make it work for you. Eventually the market will sort itself out, especially if its allowed to crash. If the govt tinkers with it too much the recovery will be delayed.We are in for some tough times ahead.  As always, supply and demand will be the key pointers to which way the market will end up.

6) Would you ever recommend lease options as a property investment strategy? This is a difficult market even for some seasoned professionals, and many folk are looking for the next big thing to allow them to control property without any risk. However, property investing is ALL about risk. In my opinion lease options should not be used on the residential market. its only a matter of time before lease options are regulated. They will go the way of SARB. All it takes is for the media to get a whiff of what’s going on and for the FSA to intervene. Ultimately the FSA will have more powers thrown their way in the govt shake up. Remember too that some very big portfolio building companies have gone bankrupt last year, and many properties they acquired were done via lease options. What happened to the vendors of those properties acquired by options? This should tell you something. If your deals are not about creating a good outcome for all parties, then it’s about fleecing the property owner.

7) Is the market currently therefore only for the cash rich for the foreseeable future? Personally I think it is. There are plenty of auction bargains to be had for cash rich investors. And to be fair, when you play the property game with your own money, it becomes much more real- which is what it should be.There are opportunities in all markets, it depends on your focus.I suspect BTL will become further regulated ( if that’s possible!) which will deter some newer investors or those looking to replace a pension with a BTL.

8)We previously spoke on joint ventures – are there any new factors that have to be considered when exploring this strategy in the current market? With joint ventures, the main thing is not to be too greedy in the beginning.  Work up to the bigger deals,  don’t go mad at the start looking for massive deals. I’ve heard of many people paying too much attention to the deal entry and not to the exit. The exit strategy is a key element, particularly in this climate. If you are starting with new partners you have to test the waters to make sure you all trust each other and get on. Make sure the paperwork has no ambiguities and that all sides are clear on their roles, duties and legal framework. JVs are a timeless way to invest if you have some skills or money to offer. There is always a way to create a win/ win if you look at all the angles.  My downloadable e-book goes into more detail about JVs.

9) There has a been a lot of debate on the ‘property guru’ phenomenon – what do you think it takes to be a true property ‘expert’? Well it’s not easy that’s for sure! A true expert is one that has been through at least one crash in the market and survived, not someone who has been around only when the finance was easy. There is NO substitute for experience. I look at it this way, if someone is selling a course or system, then are they really investing gurus or are they marketing gurus?  Both are fine in their own right, but only one is a property expert. Anyone can rehash others information to sell a course.

10) Please can you tell us about your new website – Investor Insightand why you chose to create it?
Over the last couple of years we as a company and as individuals have invested in many diverse things so that when the property crash came we were prepared. We were lucky to be introduced to a seriously switched on IFA who was well connected in the City. As a company and as investors we have learned so much that we decided to put all this new information & excellent contacts to greater use and build an investor site. The site is about investing as a whole, including wealth generation, tax, legal issues, property here and abroad, sustainable investment, stocks and shares and all the other stuff in between. We’re planning regular celebrity and well known article writers, competitions with large prizes and loads more! Our aim is to make investing approachable, easy and interactive for all with an interest. By passing along the great knowledge and contacts we have we hope to continue to show people a wider and safer investing model than just pure property.

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Property Lease Options – A Dying Investment Strategy?

January 20th, 2011

Using lease options to control property has grown to become an investment technique being used popularly around the country – particularly as a consequence of stringent BTL finance rules impeding many business growth strategies.  As what was to be expected, many have either been sceptical about their medium to long term effectiveness or pointed to the fact that there is no tangible ownership being a major negative.  Nevertheless, for the time being, their use is likely to remain and so we therefore chatted to one the UK’s thought leaders on the topic – Mark Jackson of Lease Options Made Simple – on a number of subjects including legal issues; the ‘fad’ argument; benefits / risks; potential FSA intervention and protecting future interests amongst others.

1) Can you give us a bit of an outline about your experience and why choose to set up ´Lease Options Made Simple´? I fell in love with property at the tender age of seven. It was then my parents bought our first family home, which we renovated, lived in and sold. Later, when I was 14, we bought a heavily wooded plot of land and lived in a caravan for two years while we built our home from scratch. The whole experience taught me some important lessons about life and that over time property can be a great way to invest and create wealth.

When I returned to the UK after ten years of voluntary work in poorer countries in 2004 I was determined to become financially free, and was convinced that property was the best way for me. I set about learning how I could acquire a portfolio of investment property without huge amounts of cash. In fact, at that time, I had no credit history at all, and even less cash.

In 2006 I used a property option to secure and buy the tiny flat I was renting in Richmond, North Yorkshire. Then I started building a portfolio, buying property from other investors and home-owners using property lease options and other advanced purchasing techniques, like seller finance. I loved the problem-solving power of property lease options, and I found it very easy to negotiate and structure deals with motivated sellers. I wanted to share my experience, since lease options had liberated me from a struggle to make ends meet to no longer needing to work, and in a short time.

2009 saw the interest in lease options in the UK increase sharply and it was then I approached Wendy Patton to discuss the possibility of creating Lease Options Made Simple. Wendy has enormous experience with lease options in the US (more than 24 years of investing experience and over 650 deals personally agreed) and this rich experience, longevity and a refreshing approach to motivated sellers really appealed to me. We formed Lease Options Made Simple in 2010 and thoroughly enjoy working together.

The use of lease options to aquire property – particularly since investors have had increasing difficulty in undertaking no money down – has grown in popularity in recent years.  Are they really a viable strategy in the modern day property investment market or – as some have debated – a bit of a ´fad´? You make an important point here. In my experience it is only those who have yet to enjoy success with lease options who call them a ‘fad’. Without being offensive or derogatory, comments like that make me think of the Aesop’s fable about the fox and the grapes…So I suppose whether you consider lease options a fad or not would depend on your experience with them. Viability is in my mind a question of availability, sustainability, longevity and security. Do lease options done well meet those criteria? In my opinion, yes. Why? Lease options give you control without ownership and at times when ownership is challenging, lease options are a viable, solid alternative. Wendy’s 24 years of lease options experience is a powerful answer to the question of viability.

What are the main benefits of building a lease option portfolio in 2011?

  • Freedom for investors to continue building a portfolio at a time when there is a sea of discounted property;
  • Existing finance is often cheaper than new buy to let products available often resulting in much better cash-flow at a time of a historically low base rate;
  • The number of properties you can secure is limited not by external factors, such as the availability of bank finance but by how many units you can find, manage and maintain;
  • The rental market is set to be strong in 2011, meaning fewer voids and higher rents, so now is a good time to work towards replacing an income from a job and take that step towards financial independence through property lease options;
  • Because you don’t need a new mortgage to get control of a property with lease options you are able to exchange more quickly and move on to the next deal.

What do you feel are the main reasons that some investors are against the strategy of lease options?

  • The poor quality of some of the ‘deals’ packaged and offered as investments. I’ve seen some being sold with negative equity, huge arrears, distressed sellers and dubious due diligence;
  • Sandwich options which rely on two lease options running Seller – Investor and Investor – Buyer are, in my opinion, unfair to both seller and tenant-buyer. When they are talked of as a viable strategy in the UK they do lease options a disservice. Why so? Sandwich options structured this way offer the tenant-buyer little or no security;
  • Lease options are still quite new in the UK and the advantages they can bring are so enormous, they could seem too good to be true. “There must be a catch;”
  • There has been a lot of hype surrounding lease options and clever marketing, and this turns some of us off. We have a limited number of experienced lease options investors in the UK who are actually writing lease options, and investors know when someone is talking from experience or selling courses. You can find lots of reliable information about lease options on our site: www.LeaseOptionsMadeSimple.co.uk;

What are the main strategies that can be used this year in order to ensure maximum profitability? For fast cash – cooperative options, where you cooperate with a seller willing to give terms and find a motivated buyer. In many parts of the country controlling property and tenanting while you wait for the market to show its hand is profitable. If you keep your options open you can always use a tenant-buyer strategy later if the market lifts and your optioned property is worth more. Always target property with equity and agree to have at least part of the monthly payment coming off the end purchase price.

What do you see as the main risks and how can they be minimised?

  • Having the seller made bankrupt, or declaring himself bankrupt;
  • A seller challenging the option agreement three years down the line on the basis that it is unfair or they didn’t understand what they were entering in to.

These can be minimised by avoiding distressed sellers, having a watertight paperwork system and making sure that the seller has adequate, qualified legal representation from the outset.

As with what happened with sale and rent back (SARB) a few years back – how long will it be before the FSA begin investigating lease options deals and what will be the implications of investors using this strategy? That’s a difficult one…You can be sure the FSA is already interested to some extent in lease options. Of course, it’s good to be running your options business as if it were already a regulated activity. The implications of regulation would depend on the level of control the FSA wanted to see imposed. These things are not retrospective, though, so any regulation would be unlikely to affect lease option deals already written.

Would you recommend undertaking lease options to a beginner in property? Yes. Why not? Beginners can do better with lease options than seasoned investors because they do not have the limiting belief “Why would anyone agree to this?” It is important to get good lease options education and have access to experienced investors for support. The first deal is always the most difficult.

Should a lease option portfolio building strategy always be combined with one of buying property in the ´normal´ way? If you can create wealth through control and without the burden of ownership, why would you ever need to buy in the normal way? If it is more profitable for now to piggy-back on somebody else’s existing finance, then that would be a good idea.

Of course, there are some advantages to ownership, but if you can’t get a mortgage, get started with lease options. There are some option properties in my portfolio I want to buy or sell on this year, possibly through a JV partner, just because they are such good deals and we are already well in to the option period.  I have already built up healthy credits and want to have that considerable created equity credited to me.

In terms of protecting the future interest in an optioned property, how can this be protected (many have criticised the legality of the contracts that have / are being put together)? There are certain fundamentals that every option investor will want to take care of to protect his interest:

  • Register the option with LR once paperwork has been exchanged;
  • Make sure you are using the latest lease option paperwork;
  • Make sure you have control over the mortgage payments and authority to talk with the lender on the seller’s behalf;
  • Tell the lender that you have agreed an option with the seller;
  • Don’t deal with distressed sellers – you are storing up future problems.
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Using Lease Options to Acquire Residential Property

March 15th, 2010

The use of options to take control of property has only recently become commonplace strategy in the UK – particularly after the onset of the credit crunch.  A lease option is an abbreviated form of the more formal term referred to as a ‘lease with an option to purchase’.  In short, a lease option enables the buyer to enter a contractual agreement with the owner of an asset to take its control on the basis of the owner transferring the asset within a specific time frame for a specific price.

Options are used in various forms across a variety of financial transactions including in the stock market (often referred to as ‘futures’).  Contrary to what is often stated, lease options have not been exported into the UK from countries like the USA and Australia but have existed for centuries – albeit solely within the commercial and land sectors.  In land, the lessee (or potential buyer) usually takes an option for a number of reasons such as to ascertain its open market value; to ensure planning permission can properly obtained (and there are no encumbrances) and/or to buy time for the land to be leased.  In commercial property, lease options allow corporations to evaluate operations on an ongoing basis prior to locking into long-term contracts (amongst several other uses).

Many see the main downside of lease options being the fact that the buyer does not take ‘ownership’ of the property which, whilst theoretically true, does not mean that these kinds of transactions should not be taken seriously.  Below are some of the benefits of lease options:

  • The commonly referred ‘below market value’ or ‘BMV’ strategy of aquiring property requires a certain amount of equity to remain in the property to facilitate a purchase.  Lease options, on the other hand, enable investors to offer win-win (and sometimes another ‘win’ in the case of sandwich options) to vendors who have little or are in negative equity;
  • Genuine solutions are provided where all parties can eventually gain – the ‘unethical’ aspect of buying BMV is removed by the fact that vendors are getting the price that they want and often more (with costs covered);
  • As the credit crunch took its effects, many investors found it difficult to obtain mortgage finance due to banking institutions stringent lending criteria.  Lease options can enable a potential buyer to take control of another parties mortgage whilst the lending market becomes more accessible;
  • Income can be still be gained in the form of profits from rental income;
  • The buyer has the right but not the obligation to purchase.  It may, for example, come to a stage where the buyer may not be sure as to whether to take on full ownership of the asset – in which case a number of profitable options can still be undertaken;
  • More activity in the housing market is always to be encouraged and investment decisions can be made on guided principles as opposed to speculation.

*** It is worth noting that, whilst lease options are a very feasible method to profit from residential property, the strategies and concepts are very new and, as such, have not had the chance to stand the test of time.  We would, therefore, recommend seeking suitably qualified and commercially aware solicitors to work with, particularly when reviewing contracts (please feel free to contact us on the details below for some recommendations). ***

*** THREE TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LEASE OPTIONS ***

1) Purchase Lease Option / Short Term Lease Option

The buyer is granted the option to purchase the property at a given date for a given price (usually within a short period, for example to give time for a sale to complete).  This is used to ‘lock in’ a purchase price and is accepted by vendors on the basis that they will know what they will be achieving and so that the buyer can proceed comfortably knowing that the sale will occur.

2) Lease Option

The most common form of option used amongst property professionals – the best way to explain a ‘lease option’ is, in short, when a investor takes control of the property without ownership (although the usual objective is to eventually transfer the deeds into your name and reap the rewards of any capital gain). Lease options work very well in a bottoming property market as, firstly, the vendor can remove the ‘ball and chain’ of owning a property that they are desperate to shift (and achieve a price that is reasonable for them) and, secondly, the investor to feel sure that he/she will be able to profit from the deal in the future (as well as receive rental income).

3) Sandwich Lease Option

Originating from Australia and the US where they have been commonly used in residential property for some time, a lease option (as above) is used to control the property with a separate purchase option put in place granted to a tenant buyer.  There are essentially two exercise prices: the first, which is set with the owner (at a low value) and the second with the tenant buyer (at a higher value) – the investors profit will be both the ‘filling’ (the price differential) and positive cash flow that is achieved via the rental income from the tenant buyer. Read our interview with commercial lawyer, Richard Spender, on sandwich options by clicking here.

Please click on this link to see a recording of our lease options roundtable discussion.

Note you will have to be a member of the Property Investor Hub to access the video, which can be done in under a minute by clicking here.

Acquiring UK Property Through the Means of Lease Options – An Introduction
The use of options to take control of property has only recently become commonplace strategy in the UK – particularly
after the onset of the credit crunch.  A lease option is an abbreviated form of the more formal term referred to as a ‘lease with an
option to purchase’.  In short, a lease option enables the buyer to enter a contractual agreement with the owner of an
asset to take its control on the basis of the owner transferring the asset within a specific time frame for a specific price.
Options are used in various forms across a variety of financial transactions including in the stock market (often referred to as ‘futures’).
Contrary to what is often stated, lease options have not been exported into the UK from countries like the USA and Australia but have
existed for centuries – albeit solely within the commercial and land sectors.  In land, the lessee (or potential buyer) usually takes an option for
a number of reasons such as to ascertain its open market value; to ensure planning permission can properly obtained (and there are no encumbrances)
and/or to buy time for the land to be leased.  In commercial property, lease options allow corporations to evaluate operations on an
ongoing basis prior to locking into long-term contracts (amongst several other uses).
Many see the main downside of lease options being the fact that the buyer does not take ‘ownership’ of the property which, whilst theoretically true,
does not mean that these kinds of transactions should not be taken seriously.  Below are some of the benefits of lease options:
- The commonly referred ‘below market value’ or ‘BMV’ strategy of aquiring property requires a certain amount of equity to remain in the
property to facilitate a purchase.  Lease options, on the other hand, enable investors to offer win-win (and sometimes another ‘win’ in
the case of sandwich options) to vendors who have little or are in negative equity;
- Genuine solutions are provided where all parties can eventually gain – the ‘unethical’ aspect of buying BMV is removed by the
fact that vendors are getting the price that they want and often more (with costs covered);
- As the credit crunch took its effects, many investors found it difficult to obtain mortgage finance due to banking institutions stringent lending criteria.  Lease
options can enable a potential buyer to take control of another parties mortgage whilst the lending market becomes more accessible;
- Income can be still be gained in the form of profits from rental income;
- The buyer has the right but not the obligation to purchase.  It may, for example, come to a stage where the buyer may not be sure
as to whether to take on full ownership of the asset – in which case a number of profitable options can still be undertaken;
- More activity in the housing market is always to be encouraged and investment decisions can be made on guided principles as opposed
to speculation.
*** It is worth noting that, whilst lease options are a very feasible method to profit from residential property, the strategies and concepts are
very new and, as such, have not had the chance to stand the test of time.  We would, therefore, recommend seeking suitably qualified and commercially
aware solicitors to work with, particularly when reviewing contracts (please feel free to contact us on the details below for some
recommendations). ***
*** THREE TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LEASE OPTIONS ***
1) Purchase Lease Option / Short Term Lease Option
The buyer is granted the option to purchase the property at a given date for a given price (usually within a short period,
for example to give time for a sale to complete).  This is used to ‘lock in’ a purchase price and is accepted by vendors on
the basis that they will know what they will be achieving and so that the buyer can proceed comfortably knowing that the sale will occur.
2) Lease Option
The most common form of option used amongst property professionals – the best way to explain a ‘lease option’ is, in short, when a investor
takes control of the property without ownership (although the usual objective is to eventually transfer the deeds into your name and
reap the rewards of any capital gain).  Lease options work very well in a bottoming property market as, firstly, the vendor can remove
the ‘ball and chain’ of owning a property that they are desperate to shift (and achieve a price that is reasonable for them) and, secondly,
the investor to feel sure that he/she will be able to profit from the deal in the future (as well as receive rental income).
3) Sandwich Lease Option
Originating from Australia and the US where they have been commonly used in residential property for some time, a lease
option (as above) is used to control the property with a separate purchase option put in place granted to a tenant buyer.
There are essentially two exercise prices: the first, which is set with the owner (at a low value) and the second with the
tenant buyer (at a higher value) – the investors profit will be both the ‘filling’ (the price differential) and positive
cash flow that is achieved via the rental income from the tenant buyer.
Please click on the following link to see a recording of our lease options roundtable discussion:
Note you will have to be a member of the Property Investor Hub to access the video (which will also enable you get FREE news, guides, factsheets,
hint, tips and landlord tools).
http://www.propertyinvestorhub.co.uk
Contact us: info@propertysolvers.co.uk
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Taxation When Doing Lease Options Deals

January 27th, 2010
1) What are the major taxes that investors should be concerned with when dealing with lease option transactions?
Well the largest of them is the possible liability of Inheritance Tax (IHT) and Capital Gains Tax (CGT).  Investors will also need to declare any income tax they are in receipt of in much the same way as with any other buy to let property.  Note you will be able to offset this latter tax against certain business expenses.
2) How do they apply to lease options?
When it comes to the option enforcement point investors should be aware that both CGT and IHT will apply – so even if you are planning to flip the lease option, be sure to account for the tax liability.  As many readers would know, however, investors have set allowance of £325,000 for IHT and £10,100 CGT (note that these have been changing year in year out recently).  If you are doing lease options, then ensure you are doing it in the correct way to mitigate any potential tax liability.
3) Can taxes be offset in any way?
As mentioned above, income tax can be offset.  Having spoken to the Inland Revenue about this issue, my understanding is that CGT and IHT taxes cannot be offset in any way due to the complexity of undertaking lease option agreements.
4) Are there any tax benefits in undertaking lease options?
No significant tax benefits, though each case should be viewed on merit before giving any specific advice, as with all of these cases, there is unfortunately no generic answer.  Drop me a line and I will be able to outline the current, medium term and long term implications on a per deal basis (contact details are below).
5) Should the Inland Revenue be informed prior to do any kind of lease option transaction?
No, there is no necessity of doing this
6) Should investors file their tax returns in the same way?
Yes, everything is done in the same way as they would on their standard tax return.
7) Should the optioner (grantor) be aware of any tax implications?
No, none that can be noted at present (subject to change by the HMRC).
8) If, for example, if the option is exercised after the 5 year PPR period granted to homeowners – would they be subject to CGT (if they have not lived in the property)?
Yes, there would be the liability to CGT but the usual allowances would kick at the rate defined by the HMRC each year
For any lease option transaction, it is highly advisable to seek professional advise via a tax specialist or an accountant with the relevant knowledge on the subject.  The answers above could be subject to changes, so we would also recommend investors be vigilant when doing business.  For independent and objective advice, Simon can be contacted via email at thetaxinsider@yahoo.com orWith With

With many property investors incorporating lease options into their buying strategy, PS Investor Services have interviewed tax expert and IFA, Simon Goody, on the necessary implications when conducting these kinds of transactions.  Please see the short interview below:

1) What are the major taxes that investors should be concerned with when dealing with lease option transactions?  Well, the largest of them are the possible liabilities of Inheritance Tax (IHT) and Capital Gains Tax (CGT).  Investors will also need to declare any income tax they are in receipt of in much the same way as with any other buy to let property.  Note you will be able to offset this latter tax against certain business expenses.

2) How do they apply to lease options?  When it comes to the option enforcement point investors should be aware that both CGT and IHT will apply – so even if you are planning to flip the lease option, be sure to account for the tax liability.  As many readers would know, however, investors have set allowances of £325,000 for IHT and £10,100 CGT (note that these have been changing year in year out recently and should be monitored).  If you are doing lease options, then ensure you are doing it in the correct way to mitigate any potential tax liability.

3) Can taxes be offset in any way? As mentioned above, income tax can be offset. Having spoken to the Inland Revenue about this issue, my understanding is that CGT and IHT taxes cannot be offset in any way due to the complexity of undertaking lease option agreements.

4) Are there any tax benefits in undertaking lease options? No significant tax benefits, though each case should be viewed on merit before giving any specific advice – as with all of these cases, there is unfortunately no generic answer.  Drop me a line and I will be able to outline the current, medium term and long term implications on a per deal basis (contact details are below).

5) Should the Inland Revenue be informed prior to do any kind of lease option transaction? No, there is no necessity of doing this.

6) Should investors file their tax returns in the same way? Yes, everything is done in the same way as they would on their standard tax return.

7) Should the optioner (grantor) be aware of any tax implications?  No, none that can be noted at present (subject to change by the HMRC).

8)If, for example, if the option is exercised after the 5 year PPR period granted to homeowners – would they be subject to CGT (if they have not lived in the property)? Yes, there would be the liability to CGT but the usual allowances would kick at the rate defined by the HMRC each year

For any lease option transaction, it is highly advisable to seek professional advise via a tax specialist or an accountant with the relevant knowledge on the subject.  The answers above could be subject to changes, so we would also recommend investors be vigilant when doing business.  For independent and objective advice, Simon can be contacted via email at thetaxinsider@yahoo.com or calling 07957-1891450845-226-0728.  Please also see his websites: My Money Mentor and Advice Matters.

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Joint Ventures in Property 2010

January 20th, 2010
Many readers would remember the interview we did with Roberta Ward in 2009 where we discussed the various ins and outs of undertaking joint ventured property investments.  As the last year has seen many changes with regards to how property investors operate in the market place, we thought it would be a good idea to gain some new insights into joint-venturing and ask one of the UK’s genuine property experts her thoughts on the market moving forward.
1) So, what have you been up to over the last year?
Last year my partners and I took a step back from buying property, as we felt the market was too volatile to make rational decisions at the start of the year. It was a transition period for our business. We had started looking for other income streams connected to and outside of the property market to make our base more solid, and to create more revenue to invest with. We also seeked further finance opportunities which gave us the opportunity to review all our current properties and how they were performing so as to apply changes where necessary. Regular reviews are essential in property investing.
2) We originally spoke about undertaking joint ventures as an effective strategy for those were perhaps finding investing by themselves difficult, as well as those who wanted to share risk.  As we start 2010, does a joint venturing approach to residential property still work?
Yes, JVs work in any market. Like anything else, you have to fit the JV around the deal. People with bad credit can build portfolios using JV partners names on the mortgages along with 2nd charges etc –  ones who may have a better rating than themselves perhaps. Trust, and a good legal document/ advice are the essentials for any partnership.
3) Would many of the principles you highlighted still stand or has much changed in the last year?
I personally don’t think much has changed on the JV front. The difference is the market, agents are forcing prices upwards due to lack of supply.  Valuations in this market may be unstable and prone to dropping when the interest rates change, or the repos which banks are holding are released, or even with the more stringent rules the government want to apply to landlords. Many will get fed up and dump their properties if the market is high enough in their area, potentially causing a drop in price as availability is increased.
4) Have there been any other strategies that you have seen emerge that would be of interest to our readers?
Well there was the mad dash towards doing option agreements for those who suddenly could not finance deals and got pulled in to the NMD way of doing things.  Effectively many tried to do the same type of deals via options instead of finance.  Not for the faint hearted or inexperienced property investor in my own opinion.  Lots can go wrong and you need proper legal advice – even the lawyers involved are constantly tweaking the format of the documents which make you wonder about previous earlier deals. I saw one deal on a forum recently which I analysed on my blog here: http://mypropertymentor.co.uk/blog/2010/01/analysis-lease-option-rip-off-deal/
5) What would be some joint venture tips that you would suggest to someone who is starting out in property in 2010?
This kind of depends on how quickly you want to achieve something. People will not trust you if you are just starting in property, so it depends what you can bring to the table. You will need to prove you have either experience, or money to invest or you must be willing to share the work in some way.   Another idea is that you could attempt to source deals for people instead or give your time freely to learn from an experienced investor, this could lead to doing deals a bit later on.  If you would like to know more specific details of how to do joint ventures I have an ebook available from my web site: My Property Mentor. www.mypropertymentor.co.uk
6) In many ways, using a lease option with a homeowner is a form of joint-venturing – what are your thoughts on undertaking these types of transaction?
Yes, but in a JV both partners are in it for profit and working towards common goals. In my experience, homeowners do not understand options or what you are really doing with their property. Often you may be their way out of a mess, which makes them vulnerable and prone to being taken advantage of. I have a couple of blog posts in which I write about options in more detail:
http://mypropertymentor.co.uk/blog/2009/11/lease-options-regulation-in-sight/
http://mypropertymentor.co.uk/blog/2009/09/finance-versus-options-which-would-you-choose/
http://mypropertymentor.co.uk/blog/2009/09/the-options-band-waggon-has-rolled-in-to-town/
7) Can you re-iterate some of the most important factors, perhaps with a few to the year ahead, of what people should be looking for in a joint venture partner?
A good agreement with Trust Deeds; common goals long and short term if necessary; secure exit strategies for the deals; big discounts to take account of market fluctuations are the main ones.
8)What are your thoughts on using commercial lending to finance residential property investments – are there any inherent risks in taking this route?
Commercial lending is a complex issue. Basically, commercial lending is generally available if you have property within a portfolio with equity. In many ways it is even tighter than regular BTL lending and you would typically see the lender put 2nd charges across the whole of your portfolio and then lend you up to 60% of its total equity value. For most BTL investors this is ruled out as their portfolios are heavily leveraged due to the NMD fiasco of building a portfolio. In many cases, you would be better off with private equity lending instead as the charges would be temporary and on individual property. Or you could look at bridging initially perhaps, depends on the deal of course.
What are you plans for your own property business and your events?
This year we are launching some very exciting things, which are still under wraps right now. We have two potential projects – one abroad, which we are seeking finance on at present. The foreign one is a renovation – so a REAL challenge that one! The other is a local investor property we are considering taking on as a multi-let. This year I intend to grow the networking side of the business. We are also moving into new circles and moving away from the “Show biz Landlords” (as a friend of mine calls the networking circuit speakers!) into a more up market development crowd – as that’s where our heart lies. I see this year as a year of planned growth where we build on the foundations of last year’s ground work.
How can people find out more about your up-and-coming events in Chelmsford?
Our networking events are held on the last Tuesday of every month and all details are posted on our web site in the networking pages: www.mypropertymentor.co.uk. This month we are talking about future planning. This will involve tax and retirement planning for your long term exit of the property arena. Our regular speakers cover a wide range of topics. I can honestly say that networking is the most important thing I have done in the last few years. Without it you are prone to get stuck in one way of thinking. Networking creates opportunity and creative thought which will ultimately move you forward at a much faster pace than going it alone.

Many readers would remember the interview we did with Roberta Ward in 2009 where we discussed the various ins and outs of undertaking joint ventured property investments.  As the last year has seen many changes with regards to how property investors / landlords operate in the market place, we thought it would be a good idea to gain some new insights into joint-venturing and ask one of the UK’s most genuine and frankly-speaking property experts her thoughts on the market moving forward…

1) So, what have you been up to over the last year? Last year my partners and I took a step back from buying property as we felt the market was too volatile to make rational decisions at the start of the year. It was a transition period for our business. We had started looking for other income streams connected to and outside of the property market to make our base more solid, and to create more revenue to invest with. We also seeked further finance opportunities which gave us the opportunity to review all our current properties and how they were performing so as to apply changes where necessary. Regular reviews are essential in property investing.

2) We originally spoke about undertaking joint ventures as an effective strategy for those were perhaps finding investing by themselves difficult, as well as those who wanted to share risk.  As we start 2010, does a joint venturing approach to residential property still work?  Yes, JVs work in any market. Like anything else, you have to fit the JV around the deal. People with bad credit can build portfolios using JV partners names on the mortgages along with 2nd charges etc. –  ones who may have a better rating than themselves perhaps. Trust, and a good legal document/ advice are the essentials for any partnership.

3) Would many of the principles you highlighted still stand or has much changed in the last year?  I personally don’t think much has changed on the JV front. The difference is the market, agents are forcing prices upwards due to lack of supply. Valuations in this market may be unstable and prone to dropping when the interest rates change; or the repos which banks are holding are released; or even with the more stringent rules the government want to apply to landlords. Many will get fed up and dump their properties if the market is high enough in their area, potentially causing a drop in price as availability is increased.

4) Have there been any other strategies that you have seen emerge that would be of interest to our readers?  Well there was the mad dash towards doing option agreements for those who suddenly could not finance deals and got pulled in to the NMD way of doing things.  Effectively many tried to do the same type of deals via options instead of finance.  Not for the faint hearted or inexperienced property investor in my own opinion.  Lots can go wrong and you need proper legal advice – even the lawyers involved are constantly tweaking the format of the documents which make you wonder about previous earlier deals. I saw one lease options deal on a forum recently which I analysed on my blog here.

5) What would be some joint venture tips that you would suggest to someone who is starting out in property in 2010?  This kind of depends on how quickly you want to achieve something. People will not trust you if you are just starting in property, so it depends what you can bring to the table. You will need to prove you have either experience, money to invest or you must be willing to share the work in some way.   Another idea is that you could attempt to source deals for people instead or give your time freely to learn from an experienced investor, this could lead to doing deals a bit later on.  If you would like to know more specific details of how to do joint ventures I have an ebook available from my web site: My Property Mentor.

6) In many ways, using a lease option with a homeowner is a form of joint-venturing – what are your thoughts on undertaking these types of transaction?  Yes, but in a JV both partners are in it for profit and working towards common goals. In my experience, homeowners do not understand options or what you are really doing with their property. Often you may be their way out of a mess, which makes them vulnerable and prone to being taken advantage of. I have a few blog posts in which I write about options in more detail:

7) Can you re-iterate some of the most important factors, perhaps with a few to the year ahead, of what people should be looking for in a joint venture partner?  A good agreement with Trust Deeds; common goals long and short term if necessary; secure exit strategies for the deals; big discounts to take account of market fluctuations are the main ones.

8)What are your thoughts on using commercial lending to finance residential property investments – are there any inherent risks in taking this route? Commercial lending is a complex issue. Is is essentially only available if you have property within a portfolio with equity. In many ways it is even tighter than regular BTL lending and you would typically see the lender put second charges across the whole of your portfolio and then lend you up to 60% of its total equity value. For most BTL investors this is ruled out as their portfolios are heavily leveraged due to the NMD fiasco of building a portfolio. In many cases, you would be better off with private equity lending instead as the charges would be temporary and on individual property. Or you could look at bridging initially perhaps, all depends on the deal of course.

9) What are you plans for your own property business and your events?  This year we are launching some very exciting things, which are still under wraps right now. We have two potential projects – one abroad, which we are seeking finance on at present. The foreign one is a renovation – so a REAL challenge that one! The other is a local investor property we are considering taking on as a multi-let. This year I intend to grow the networking side of the business. We are also moving into new circles and moving away from the “Show biz Landlords” (as a friend of mine calls the networking circuit speakers!) into a more up market development crowd – as that’s where our heart lies. I see this year as a year of planned growth where we build on the foundations of last year’s ground work.

10) How can people find out more about your up-and-coming events in Chelmsford?  Our networking events are held on the last Tuesday of every month and all details are posted on our web site in the networking pages. This month we are talking about tax and retirement planning for your long term exit of the property arena. Our regular speakers cover a wide range of topics. I can honestly say that networking is the most important thing I have done in the last few years.  Networking creates opportunity and creative thought which will ultimately move you forward at a much faster pace than going it alone. Without it you are prone to get stuck in one way of thinking.

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January 13th, 2010
1) Can you tell us a bit about yourself and your background in the property industry?
My name is David Duckworth I have been interested in business and investing since being a teenager. Between the age of 16 – 28 I started and ran five different businesses, two IT companies, a pub, an advertising company and printers. I’ve been bankrupt once, and been ripped off majorly once too resulting in me losing everything and ending up in a homeless hostel in Brussels (long story), but have also ran a company that makes 6 figure profits, and am lucky enough now that I can afford to pay myself a healthy wage. Not bad for someone who at an employment fair at school was asked if he had applied at McDonalds yet.
Currently I own an IT security consultancy and printers, and I have a healthy interest in property.
I guess my journey in property started in 2007 when I attended a conference hosted by Parmdeep Vadesha & Hanif Khan. I was asked to stand up and tell everyone why I wanted to get into property. I literally just said ‘I have no idea – I just think I ought to’
Since then I have bought and sold, and currently just have a small portfolio, which I’m looking to open the throttle on this year, hopefully as lending gets a little more easier and I get my head round lease options.
But I tend to wait for the gems rather than buying anything that comes my way. I also never draw down from properties either. There have been a few guys I know that over the last year or so have lost quite a lot because their property portfolio has been to highly geared.
I should also mention that I am in no way a ‘property expert’ and certainly don’t claim to be one. Maybe one day I’ll have a legitimate claim to such title but for now I’m happy to be learning more about what it takes to make it in property.
2) What is ‘Property Networker’?
PropertyNetworker.com is a social networking site for property investors. Property is very much a people business, the more you network and put yourself in that flow of information, the more successful you will be.
3) Why did you choose to create ‘Property Networker’?
As a budding investor I used to spend loads of time trawling the internet; reading blogs, forums, hunting for deals on lead sites and ready made deal sites. I used to network on Facebook and try to find local property meetings. This all became pretty much a full time job. I thought how great it would be to find everything in one place, under one roof if you like, and so the idea for PropertyNetworker.com was born.
4) There are a number of ‘property networking’ sites on the web – some which have more success than others. Why do you feel the site is particularly unique?
I suppose the thing that sets it a part is the personal touch that helps YOUR property business progress… not just mine.
As I mentioned, I don’t claim to be a property expert. In fact I’m a novice. I’m not trying to sell you a BMV strategy; I’m not trying to get you to sign up to a 6 week course. I just provide a place for people to network, a stage if you like, all the content is user submitted.
5) Can you talk through some of the main features of the site?
The main platform of PropertyNetworker.com is of course the social networking platform, where you can create a profile, create events and form groups. You can network with other investors on the site and invite them to your networking meetings. This coupled with investor forums and YouTube video links. I’m hoping PropertyNetworker.com will become the only place on the net you’ll need to visit to become a successful investor.
And of course the other big part of PropertyNetworker.com is the newsletters. Each member receives a weekly email, which has all the up and coming events for the week, leads posted on forums and all kinds of things to do with property. Also if you run an event you get a banner advert on the front page and this is all thrown in…
6) What are you plans for the site in 2010 and beyond?
A site like PropertyNetworker.com only grows in strength through its member numbers and its members participation. I’m going to spend the year networking and promoting the site, and hopefully by the end of the year I’ll be able to boast a busy vibrant networking site, one that’s on every investors agenda.
7) How can people become a part of the site?
Easy, just go to http://www.propertynetworker.com and click on ‘Signup today’ Fill out your details and you’re away.. it only takes a few minutes.Jbsjbs

PS Investor Services have recently come across a new forum called the ‘The Property Networker‘ which we wanted to share with our subscribers.   This site grabbed our attention as it serves not only to act as an online meeting point for property investors but also provides members access to blog posts, events notices, some excellent video recordings and much more.  Please see an interview with founder David Duckworth below:

1) Can you tell us a bit about yourself and your background in the property industry?

I have been interested in business and investing since being a teenager. Between the age of 16 – 28 I started and ran five different businesses, two IT companies, a pub, an advertising company and printers. I’ve been bankrupt once, and been ripped off majorly once too resulting in me losing everything and ending up in a homeless hostel in Brussels (long story), but have also ran a company that makes 6 figure profits, and am lucky enough now that I can afford to pay myself a healthy wage. Not bad for someone who at an employment fair at school was asked if he had applied at McDonalds yet!  Currently I own an IT security consultancy and printers, and I have a healthy interest in property.

I guess my journey in property started in 2007 when I attended a conference hosted by Parmdeep Vadesha & Hanif Khan. I was asked to stand up and tell everyone why I wanted to get into property. I literally just said ‘I have no idea – I just think I ought to.’  Since then I have bought and sold, and currently just have a small portfolio, which I’m looking to open the throttle on this year, hopefully as lending gets a little more easier and I get my head round lease options.  But I tend to wait for the gems rather than buying anything that comes my way. I also never draw down from properties either. There have been a few guys I know that over the last year or so who have lost quite a lot because their property portfolio has been too highly geared.  I should also mention that I am in no way a ‘property expert’ and certainly don’t claim to be one. Maybe one day I’ll have a legitimate claim to such title but for now I’m happy to be learning more about what it takes to make it in property.

2) What is ‘Property Networker’?

PropertyNetworker.com is a social networking site for property investors. Property is very much a people business, the more you network and put yourself in that flow of information, the more successful you will be.

3) Why did you choose to create ‘Property Networker’?

As a budding investor I used to spend loads of time trawling the internet, reading blogs, forums, hunting for deals on lead sites and ready made deal sites. I used to network on Facebook and try to find local property meetings. This all became pretty much a full time job. I thought how great it would be to find everything in one place, under one roof if you like, and so the idea for PropertyNetworker.com was born.

4) There are a number of ‘property networking’ sites on the web – some which have more success than others. Why do you feel the site is particularly unique?

I suppose the thing that sets it a part is the personal touch that helps YOUR property business progress… not just mine. As I mentioned, I don’t claim to be a property expert. In fact, I’m a novice. I’m not trying to sell you a BMV strategy nor am I trying to get you to sign up to a 6 week course. I just provide a place for people to network, a stage if you like, all the content is user submitted.

5) Can you talk through some of the main features of the site?

The main platform of PropertyNetworker.com is of course the social networking platform, where you can create a profile, create events and form groups. You can network with other investors on the site and invite them to your networking meetings. This coupled with investor forums and YouTube video links. I’m hoping PropertyNetworker.com will become the only place on the net you’ll need to visit to become a successful investor.  And of course the other big part of PropertyNetworker.com is the newsletters. Each member receives a weekly email, which has all the up and coming events for the week, leads posted on forums and all kinds of things to do with property. Also if you run an event you get a banner advert on the front page and this is all thrown in…

6) What are you plans for the site in 2010 and beyond?

A site like PropertyNetworker.com only grows in strength through its member numbers and its members participation. I’m going to spend the year networking and promoting the site, and hopefully by the end of the year I’ll be able to boast a busy vibrant networking site, one that’s on every investors agenda.

7) How can people become a part of the site?

Easy, just go to PropertyNetworker.com and click on ‘Signup today’ – fill out your details and you’re away.. it only takes a few minutes.

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